'Massive Facials 4' is on the way!

[look@that]

I've not seen the movie in question, but I am of a similar opinion.
I just don't understand the appeal of a chick being beaten, made to barf, violently gagging or any and all other misogynistic crap that is being made today.

While I don't want porn entirely vanilla, most of the stuff is pure garbage and mood killing....

[granite1]

i would tend to agree

[ivyjay]

I'm glad to receive approvals answers. I feel less alone. Again I'm not an angel offended by all porn imaging ! but sexually violence abused against women make me angry. I 'm sure that not all the men enjoy this kind of movies.
When I think about that kind of movies (MF4 is an example, I could choose another series) , I try to imagine if I would like to be treated like in Massive Facials (choking, someone spitting in my mouth, hard to breath 'cos of the rough deepthroat, face becoming red,...). The answer is no. So how could I accept (and enjoy watching that in a gonzo movie) a treatment I couldn't imagine for myself? Men thinking that girls are slut maybe think that they deserve such rough treatment, personnaly I really don't agree. And I don't understand male porn performers now.
About making movies that couples coud watch :Porn industry has had many problems with the increasing use of internet. so the way to make cheaper films was gonzo.If for many men (including myself), it's not a problem to be excited directly by watching a porn scene straight to the action (like gonzo), many women prefer the context of the scene, some scenario (even a little one to introduce the scene), my gf prefer has to fantasize over the idea of the scene. Making movies with scenario (you have to pay a screenplayer) , dialogues, costumes,... cost too much money for most remaining porn companies. Gonzo is cheaper. Nevertheless even porn movies with scenarios (and more budget) are more agressive against females than in the past. (for instance the XXX porn parody of series or movies are also more rough than in the past. the Seinfeld one is an example)
It's why I prefer to watch real amateur couples. I like FF for the great couples who share their facial fantasy passion. I really respect them. The only thing I don't understand is that it' s only the gf who shows her face, rarely bf shows their faces.
But really this forum is awesome. Thanks to FF (and specially thanks to a nice couple who unfortunately don't post any more of their pics, but I really thank them), I have shared with my gf my facial passion. and now we talk about all my cum fantasies and she gradually enjoy to receive facials and accept some of my cum fetishes. Now I watch with her the pics of the month competition, she tells me her favorite pics. I think it can also be interesting to share some ideas about porn, sex, fantasies... but maybe I shoud post in the "general chat" section. Thanks for the reactions and if other members xant to react, feel free.

[brian90]

My wife enjoys the Massive facials series, and thinks Sam No as director is superb.
The context is fine, simple and fun...........or should be. And that's the point.

As before, If Miss Sam No presented the girls in an environment that was non threatening and respectful, (especially when covered in cum) it'd attract many other women as an audience.

Sam No is in a very very unique position to do this best of all.
There's no doubting her talent, and the popularity of the MF series, but she should remember to think like a woman, and not simply become as one with the multitudes of crass insensitive and disrespectful male directors in that industry.

[facialmaster]

not yet seen MF4 but definitively agree.

I made same considerations after watching Jessie Andrews scene in another recent movie for elegant angel. i think it was her first blowbang. start of scene is perfect: she is nice and well dressed etc...but then she is totally abused. make up ruined. red face. crying while guys are covering her face...not nice.

facial is an art, we should defend it

[ivyjay]

@ facialmaster : you're totally right

[spermshower]

well I've just seen the Lexi belle and Holly Michaels scenes from MF4. I found they're two cute pornstars, especially Lexi. I watched the Brooke Lee Adams scene from another Massive facials edition only for her. I wanna be honest. I really enjoy facials (if I'm a FF member of course I am), and watching multiple facials too. I enjoy japanese bukkake movies. I often find hot and sexy a wonderful woman's face covered with cum. Esthetically I find it beautiful. but I really don't like this fashion of really rough blowgang. I can't stand it, it ruins everything (for me of course) . I like the Holly's face at the end of the scene but I find awful all the rest of the scene. It could be very different, sexy, more respectful with the girl. Multiple blowing can be very sexy, cute. Why is there always rough blowing, gagging, spit covering the face? Why men have to push women's heads to be blowed? Why are there always extreme irrumation (don't know if it's the correct english term)? I think it's very insulting over the girl. Why men in these movies shake her throats with their hands like they would like to strangle them. I was impatient to watch Lexi in a bukkake scene (she has done maybe only one scene with 4 facials at the end ), but I 'm very diapointed to see her really abused. Well I don't judge fans of this serie but personnally I don't like this and I notice there are no other kinds of US blowgangs, it 's always an extreme form of male domination and violence ,even in the one on one scene. Porn industry has changed but what it was "extreme " in the past is just "normal" now (even the most famous female pornstars make this kind of scenes) . So the look of very young inexperienced men (watching these films) over girls and sexuality is changing too. They 're gonne think every woman like these rough sexual treatments, which is not. (some like this of course but I think it's a minority. Of course there can be domination play in a couple) If the pornstars accept all this , it's mainly for money. when you watch a 18 years old girl , fresh in porn industry, making rough gangbangs, I'm not sure they do it for her taste. I really doubt about it. maybe I'm the only one to think that. I 'm curious to hear other member's and women's opinion about that (maybe it's not the right place in "pornstar section") . For instance, in the past I liked to watch porn movies with my gf (even with threesome, dp's) she could watch it. Now it's difficult to find a movie she could enjoy because of this violence.

I think I can't agree more! There is a double semiotic working going on facials:

1. one is the sexyness of cum lying on a face and the power play that emerges from that kind of sex act;

2. the other is the kind of hatred for women and abusing. I think it's a kind of homo/in-the-close kind of relation with women, if you let me speak that out loud.

I hope movies with good amounts of cum will come out with ocidental girls without this kind of horrible acting and philosophy involved.

[Haji]

I think I can't agree more! There is a double semiotic working going on facials:

1. one is the sexyness of cum lying on a face and the power play that emerges from that kind of sex act;

2. the other is the kind of hatred for women and abusing. I think it's a kind of homo/in-the-close kind of relation with women, if you let me speak that out loud.

I hope movies with good amounts of cum will come out with ocidental girls without this kind of horrible acting and philosophy involved.

Also agree - I think FF does a great job at enabling most tastes to be catered to but I see nothing attractive in 'forced' or humiliated girls. There's plenty of scenes with multiple cum shots where the girl is laughing or appears to be well into it. But producers of porn who think they need to 'harden' the angle to keep people coming back are missing the point - I want to be able to watch some of these things with my partner - there's no way I could play a DVD with a girl being treated like rubbish. That makes one less purchaser in this house

[The Shape]

Well this thread got totally off track now didn't it? Thanks for the work BC so the free members can get a look. To each their own and in my opinion most of the replies starting with "ivyjay's" synopsis really should have been in general chat instead of hijacking someone else's thread. Oh and you all forgot to say "thanks bobby coke" too

[Alzarhok]

In case some people are interested here is a quick update, Massive Facials 5 is supposed to start shooting later this month. That will probably work out to a July release I am thinking. The cast is usually fairly predictable based on who's been shooting for them lately but we will see.

Still my favorite series going so it's always good to see another one coming up.