Tide has turned?

Wondering about the state of the Facial Cumshot scene. Seems many are just plain over the "Pornstar" facial these days. Everything seems to revolve around unseen homegrown or amateurs.

Our Forum would back that up. Too many couples to name off the top of my head tearing it up pretty much every day. I personally have always enjoyed homegrown/amateur stuff...even some pro am stuff. It's just hotter and more realistic.

How may times can someone watch Jenna take a facial and say "wow"? Besides the fact that what some professional people call a facial is beyond ridiculous these days. A couple of people still do good pro facials like JLM stuff from Richard Moulton and Victor with VE.
The funny thing to me is that anyone with a couple of bucks can buy a decent camera and do amazing things. It's been proven here over and over in the monthly competition.

In my opinion for the pure facial lovers everything is underground now and good new content is hard to find with a few exceptions.

What are your opinions?

I have always loved the homemade stuff ever since I found Redclouds over 10 years ago. I also like the pro am stuff as well I remember being blown away by Dagny back when she still had her yahoo group. Pornstars seem plastic to me a lot of the time. And I don't mean that in an enhanced sort of way but more barbie doll like. Granted there are some pornstars that I still think are amazingly pretty or attractive in someway. Bobbi Starr, Lisa Sparxx, Gianna Micheals, Joana Angel are a few of them but I think even with them there is a roughness to them that makes them seem more real, even if they are still pros getting paid. But ultimately there's something very erotic and appealing about a girl or couple doing something because they enjoy it not cause someone paid them.

Homemade over Pro anyday

I really love the home-grown or pro am stuff. I just like seeing next-door type girls, acting in a natural way, even enjoying what they are doing. A woman or girl does not have to look like a model to appear sexy and cute. The best facials I have seen were all home-grown, no doubt.

Most porn labels (at least in Germany) are all doing the same stuff now with models looking the same.

When I watched a GGG clip the last time it came like an Epiphany to me how tired I have grown of this stuff and that I have to move on. Maybe I am getting old. I have that feeling more often lately, not only when it comes to porn.

I miss in some way sites like Athens-girls or Girlxpert as they had those next-door girls, although there is still good stuff out there, for example Velvet-Ecstasy.

A big turn-off with home-grown was the often poor quality. But with cameras getting better we can enjoy great home clips today. Besides what some professional labels or sites sometimes offer is ridiculous.

I have to agree with all the responses so far. The amateur facials are the best because the couples are doing them because they want to do them, not because it is what is expected.

Well being honest it's always been pretty much all about the visual aspect for me, not so much what the circumstances were where/when the girl got her face covered, so i'll have to pick it doesn't matter as long as her face is a ridiculous sticky mess.

That being said I do think it has shifted in the favor of the homemade, more amateur stuff. The industry stuff just isn't what it used to be a few years back.

Actually in the mid 00's I think I favored industry output, lots of good series still going at that point but for a couple reasons (Piracy killing off their profits, general shift to other niches becoming the more popular ones) most, if not all that stuff isn't being made anymore.

A good facial is definitly the home made or amateure stuff for me, if its a pro shoot of any kind it needs to be the girl next door look.
we currently have the best home made/amateure content right here in our monthly competition and by our existing members
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Amateur.
One of the main reasons my man and I started my site is because we didn't think there was any really Good, Nasty, Real porn out there, Real sex with Real people and Respectful Men. Respectful men, men like those of you out there on this forum, are totally missing from pro porn. There might be one here and there but for the most part, I wouldn't want to be on the same street as some of the men in pro porn.
Sex should be the prime motivator behind porn and not money. Things like nasty cum play, golden showers, bondage, rough sex (something I don't do) are all things that I find to be a major turn on if the people doing it are turned on by it. This is where amateur and homemade porn pull away in quality from pro porn. Especially in amateur porn, the sex is about the woman, as all sex should be. lol :D Just teasing guys. lol ;) But then not teasing. Sex is about the women because if we are comfortable, we will go places that you have only dreamed of. ;) What would you prefer, a woman who is exploring sexual depravity because she is turned on and trying to get you off like never before or a woman who is just paid to do it? That is the difference between pro and amateur porn.
Piper

For me, a site like Amateur Facial UK is ideal. They seem always able to capture in still photography nice hard cocks squirting their jizz all over those lovely faces. In addition, the girls there all seem to be there because they actually like getting cummed on...an unbeatable (pardon the pun) combination.

For me, there is nothing quite like homegrown material.

Yeah ok sometimes it aint shot that well. (present company excepted of course), although vid cams are getting better these days, I find it all the more of a turn on that normal, everyday, couples are willing to share all their naughty shenanigans with the world.

Put it this way, who would you rather see in here, a huge quantity of material from all of the members in here (and others like them), who do us the great honour of sharing their stuff with us, or...

...Some, over rated, pneumatic, tired bimbos who do it, not for the love of it but for the $$$'s

Personally, it's a no brainer really

A while ago it would have been the pro version but now homegrown / amateur is better for me too :)

I think the pro porn world has lost it's way a little somewhere along the line.
Although there is something to be said for a ridiculous, sticky mess in 1280x720 (or above) quality.
Just wish you didn't have to sometimes download 1.2GB to get to it :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by uncut1974

Homemade over Pro anyday

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that's it ! :)

Great topic Shape. For one shooter facials I do seem to be enjoying the homemade material more - I do however love to see women getting their faces utterly splattered by multiple cocks and I'd say the best I've seen lately has to be in the pro category. Used to be when COHF was using nubies that there was a great wealth of multi shooter scenes there but that seems to have petered out for the most part.

There are certainly exceptions to the rule with our very own Adele leading the pack these days.

:D

Definitely third option.

Definitely amateur/homemade facials for me.

Perhaps it's because you can relate to the girl or couple better, you can see yourself being there, it's more real, more sexy and more genuine.

home made stuff is so much better

For pros, it's their job; for homemade, it's for erotic and/or love: more real.

There are still some great pro sites out there, but I think the glory days are gone. Pro porn in general is facing a lot of problems financially at the moment and you can see this in the reduction of gangbang/bukkake type shoots. It is just too expensive to produce in this age of 'free porn'. Amateur stuff for me is much more satisfying - more natural and fun. In general I would rather see a loving couple having facial fun that a paid model.

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Originally Posted by LasseBosch

For pros, it's their job; for homemade, it's for erotic and/or love: more real.

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Not love. ;) :D Just nasty erotica!
Piper

Homemade all the way, seeing what's obviously a couple or "real" person do it and *share* it is what makes it for me. I've never really been a fan of pro porn and loved the older Homegrown series stuff along with the early am sites, Dagny, Nikki, AF, etc.

Homemade 1000x times over! It's the hottest!

I love watching home made stuff too...

Please can anyone tell me what I make?

I always post all the exclusive stuff in Plat Amateur forum.

Lote of the girls I shoot are ams... I am an am myself...

I have wondered for a while what "category" I live in :confused:

BTW I will post soon one of the best Cuckold vids I have ever seen, still inspires me to this day. Sorry cumshot is not so good but the whole scene is totally amazing.

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Originally Posted by SimonKemp

I love watching home made stuff too...

Please can anyone tell me what I make?
Lote of the girls I shoot are ams... I am an am myself...
I have wondered for a while what "category" I live in :confused:

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My idea of Homegrown material is pic n vids usually made by a couple initially for their own enjoyment, these vids normally are not of the best quality but the content more than makes up for it.

So, for me Simon your content isn't what I would call homegrown, however, you definitely fall into the category of amateur. (even though your work would stand alongside most of the so called pro sites out there)

You and the girls do it mostly for the pleasure and not for the pay check.
And I must add that your material has always of the highest quality, we have been very fortunate to share in all your exclusive stuff down the years, so long may it continue!!

That is one of the reasons that this place is such a haven for all kinds of "facialists" no matter what your preferences, we will have it covered in spades!!

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Originally Posted by SimonKemp

I love watching home made stuff too...

Please can anyone tell me what I make?

I always post all the exclusive stuff in Plat Amateur forum.

Lote of the girls I shoot are ams... I am an am myself...

I have wondered for a while what "category" I live in :confused:

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That last one is easy. You, my friend, live in the category most of us mere mortals would call Heaven. It has to be, where else would you find so many beautiful angels begging you to film them while they blow you? I know that is how I imagine it. :D

Now, what do you make? Pure porn perfection! Is it professional, is it amateur? Well, you sort of go in and out of both worlds. Quality wise, and based on many of your models that leans much more into the Pro world. But is it home made? Many times literally yes it is. Is it amateur, that is more complicated. Can a pro-model make amateur porn? Most guys would say if you charm a woman into having sex and filming it and there is no money involved that is about as amateur as you can get. So, if you charm a Pro-model into it is it amateur or not? Looks to me like a shifting line there. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Personally, I say it is whatever you want it to be.

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Originally Posted by Brian1453

...I say it is whatever you want it to be.

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And I say he is every facialists answer to "Francis Ford Coppola" in here. :D

I think the great stuff Simon produces is somewhere inbetween homegrown and pro-am. Pro am is not a label I really care for though. Pro am is really just pro to me. To me Simon's stuff has that genuine homegrown feel but with high production value. I agree as well that his stuff beats out most of the pro stuff out there with lovely genuine Women who obviously enjoy what they are doing. This place wouldn't be the same without that exclusive content:cool:

I'm on the fence on this one...

I greatly appreciate the production value of professional pornography, and the copious and readily available amounts it's produced in. Yet, my non-mainstream, somewhat eclectic taste in women drives me to the amateur fair. I find almost all women beautiful to some degree, and I greatly enjoy the diversity that is presented in homegrown pieces.

But then again, my cum fetish often gravitates towards the viscous and voluminous amounts of jizz often seen in pro scenes. On the other hand, one can't help but notice the genuine love and sensitivity that is displayed by caring amateur couples. Like others, I wish for a "best of both worlds..." Good quality combined with 'girls-you-know' faces...

So, that's why I voted for: "I don't care as long as her face is a ridiculous sticky mess"...

-SeedFeeder

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Originally Posted by The Shape

I think the great stuff Simon produces is somewhere inbetween homegrown and pro-am. Pro am is not a label I really care for though. Pro am is really just pro to me. To me Simon's stuff has that genuine homegrown feel but with high production value. I agree as well that his stuff beats out most of the pro stuff out there with lovely genuine Women who obviously enjoy what they are doing. This place wouldn't be the same without that exclusive content:cool:

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I agree - and I also love homegrown stuff made by couples that obviously know how to shoot a nice picture and have a good dslr. I think that is the thing these days - pro quality shots and film are not the domain of companies any more, anyone with a bit of flair and talent can make any type of content and easily compete with the 'big boys' (in porn or in any other creative field.)