Just want to hear you thoughts on wheather or not users should be deleted after 1 year of zero posts/contributions.
Just want to hear you thoughts on wheather or not users should be deleted after 1 year of zero posts/contributions.
I will save my personal opinion on this matter for the time being, I will admit to curiosity regarding why you brought it up though....
Just out of curiosity i've clicked on a bunch of random users that are online now to see where they are from or browsing now. I was surprised that some have joined 2006 with zero posts or reply's. some 2007 or 2008. Long time to just be lurking... Unless you they just like facials after the wife goes to bed.
Ha ha, fair enough dude;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pulicaus
A lot of us, including myself currently, love facials and our current women do not. I was an avid poster on the day with all of my own material but have since parted ways with my "model" A lot of what I do it browse now until the day returns for me to make some new smokin hot pics. haha
Zero
No, although you might be on to something. The leachers/reposters chase away a lot of very good cum lovers who have their pics suddenly spread all over the place. You would think that there would be some way to weed em' out.
I post and reply and thank posters for sharing their content. I do not contribute though because pretty much all of the porn I get.... I get from here. The stuff I see elsewhere is typically stuff I've already seen here so there's no point in posting what's already been posting. We have some OUTSTANDING posters here who are on top of things, Shape, Azriel, Wobleybob, Gumsel, Elgrego, SimonKemp... just to name a few. I don't know how they do it, but I'm sure glad they do!
This is a long one, I apologize!Quote:
Originally Posted by pulicaus
I am very close to on the fence with this one and it was tough to decide what I think. I know how much fun it is to have a sense of community, and sometimes the lurkers make us feel like they don't deserve to be here or we feel threatened that they might re-post content elsewhere. I chose my opinion on the matter based on my own experience:
Being a contributor of not just comments, but of self-made content as well, you might think I would be all for deleting users who lurk for 1 year+. However, if you checked out my history, you would see I lurked for about 2 years before posting anything. Look at me now! I may not be the top poster, but I definitely contribute. It took me some time to work up the courage to post, and took even longer to work up the courage of my wife to allow photos of her on the internet. Sometimes lurkers are just contributors waiting to bloom!
I have a general belief that people should be allowed to lurk. Maybe they aren't comfortable being social, and that's why they are on the internet in the first place? If they start to get rejected from the internet, they might start to feel pretty low about themselves. Or maybe their friends, family, or co-workers are highly against porn or facials (which I think is ridiculous and another topic altogether) and they want to remain as invisible as possible. Some people believe that by posting comments, even with a fake name, that somehow people will find out what they do!
I don't think the lurkers hurt anyone. I know that some people blame the lurkers for re-posts. But if we start requiring people to participate, the re-posters will participate enough to get the content they seek anyways. The people doing bad things will always find a way to do bad things. The people being being quiet are just quiet.
If you have any novel ideas on this subject that the staff have not already considered so far to try and alleviate this problem then we are all ears.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogbreath26
The sad fact is that will will never be able to stop some members flaunting certain rules in here, it is all down to how an individual views this place.
The vast majority of our members in here understand just exactly what we are trying to achieve when we set this place up over 5 years ago and will respect and uphold the basic principals that the forum stands for and also respect their fellow members wishes on reposting personal pix.
Sadly there are others who do not value this place as a community but just view it as a convenient outlet to smash n grab material and then use it as they wish.
Thankfully the good outweighs the bad many times over but a distinction has to be made here, not all lurkers will repost members material elsewhere but one thing is certain any that have been caught doing so will be banned.
Fantastic question.
My opinion, which I do not expect to carry any weight here, as a lurker, is that this forum is a well run community.
I stumbled upon the site when searching out community implementation. Regardless of the subject matter, an online forum is successful when properly moderated, open to newcomers, and may or may not offer premium services.
Some forums work well with invite only memberships, so there is nothing 'wrong' with such a setup. But the hybrid free/premium sites, with a respectful community that enforces rules, allows for better growth options.
This community offers plenty for 'freeloaders', but there are obviously benefits for Platinum membership. Without the free part, there would not be as much as an incentive to even learn about Platinum.
That GloryHole interview thread was a fantastic way to get more paid members.
On the web, nothing can be protected fully. It is all subject to finding it's way into the public. However, in a community that creates respect for other's contributions, there tends to be much less 'stealing' and re-posting.
no i dont thing so i'm a lurker but just dont like posting
First I will say that I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. The reason being how can you miss someone you don't even know is there in the first place??;)
To me the lurker issue is more about changing peoples minds as opposed to punishing people who don't contribute. If we set up a rule like that it would only force people who don't want to contribute (even with comments) to make insincere replies just to stay here.
I have had some small results over the years by constantly harping about this issue. It makes me feel good when someone I have been after to contribute something finally starts replying to other people's posts. I also think that those people who finally did find out that it's much more fun to be involved and make friends here.
As far as people who haven't even been on the forum for more than a year, I could see deleting their accounts if it would benefit the forum somehow, if it wouldn't then it doesn't really matter either way.
One other thing, I was a lurker when I first got here. I was new to the forum idea in general and really didn't have much to say. Then I saw some posts, wanted to see more and started asking questions...that is how it starts. Now years later I couldn't imagine being here and not contributing at the very least replies to the people who take time to post things people enjoy.
It's one thing to be shy, but seriously this is as anonymous as it gets. Nobody knows you or can see you. Say something, post something, get involved and you will have a better forum experience guaranteed.:cool:
Same here......exact same.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogbreath26
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Originally Posted by The Shape
Yeah...what he said...............
Everyone's made some very good points, I especially agree with what the Shape said and ZeroRain as well.
I'm definitely guilty of not commenting at all on some AMAZING posts, pics, vids etc. often because my hands were busy doing other things, and the act of posting is not always conducive to the act of squeezing one out.
Bottom line for me: you don't ALWAYS have to contribute, as I know many of you don't think you have anything to contribute. But there are threads in the general chat where I would encourage all of our lurkers to share a story. Even if you're inexperienced you can certainly chime in about how you realized you like facials, what they mean to you, ask a question, whatever.
and of course rain praise down upon the frequent contributors whose efforts ensure that there's simply no need to go anywhere else for a good wank.
And as for weather to punish lurkers: I say let 'em lurk. It really IS their loss.
I'm pretty certain that you guys have thought of everything :)Quote:
Originally Posted by alkie
One idea I have is to disable right clicking for non-platinum members. The way I figure it, is that most of the people that come here solely for stealing photos to re-post are probably not paying for a membership. This would, I would think, discourage and/or eliminate at least SOME of the re-postings. Or maybe give our sharing members an option to disable right clicking on photos they don't want shared. Not to say that every leacher/spreader is a free member. Yes, I do realize that there are ways around not being able to right-click/save as.
That would probably work for a forum that was super strict and didn't give people the benefit of the doubt, but not for this forum. It is a good idea, just one I don't think would fit us here. Every free member is a potential posting member, plat member, and a contributing member in general. It would take away the prospect of someone sharing pics/vids of their own girlfriends or wives.
1) I do not share personal pics because I am a single man :( . That does not prevent me from finding photos to be shared, Internet abounds in professionals' pics which allow to show our love for a practice and, by bounce, encourage those who can post this type of personal photo to do (Cf salopesud in the tread Double barret BJ for example)
2) Write " I like very much this pic" and bind a photo take no more than one minute but it will please those who appear on.
3) On the Internet you are anonymous as long as nobody try to know you, if anyone give an effort your IP will denounce you, you wrote or not...
Then is better to participate :D
Difficult issue, I was a lurker to start with as this was the first forum I joined and frankly is the only one I feel the need to belong to. Once I got the hang of it with plenty of help from other posters (you know who you are) I haven't looked back. It there had been rules as suggested I doubt if I'd have signed up as frankly at the beginning I didn't have a clue as to the ethos of the forum.The forum is driven by the posters and is it really affected by the lurkers, I think not. There are times when no comments can be frustrating but that means when a comment is made it makes up for the silence out there. Finally thank you bayforrest for mentioning me in such illustrious company not sure I deserve it but my ego has never been so happy!
I like Wobblybob have to admitt I lurked around here for a while before posting any comments.( but I sure as hell did obey all the rules and have never reposted any thing from here which is one of the forums problems)
First I posted comments used the help and support thread and learnt how to use HJ split, I then posted a couple of vids, eventualy started a thead of my own.
I have used several video editing programs that I would never have thought about trying before joining this forum.
When I saw somthing that was wrong I bought it to staffs attention
The point is I have got so much more out of contributing.
I dont think there is any way you can force people to contribute as that will turn peole away, just try and educate them to the benifits of being part of the forum.
You raise an interesting point : watchers gain to encourage those who post.Quote:
Originally Posted by buster
I think that the forum shall gain at encourage comments, a message saying to new subscribers that compliments (even short) are welcome and that pleasure of being desired is one of engines of the forum could incite people to answer from their arrival
I personally think if after being here a year and NOT contributing then yes delete the account...however! That just means a multitude of bogus accounts for the mods to deal with. I'd say if you don't "post" something every 90 days max then you get clamped down on and eventually moved to the delete status...lets face facts here it's the contributions that make this place rock!!!
All good points. People don't have to contribute content personal or found elsewhere, but at least say that chick is hot or enjoyed that vid. Bring things more alive, who knows maybe someone is looking through an old thread that's been buried for a while and lots of people missed and it would be nice to bump it up for the rest to see.
Totally agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by pulicaus
Pulicaus, thanks for creating this thread and starting the conversation. And thanks too to everyone who has posted their thoughts here. Always a treat when someone brings up the lurker issue. Typically we do see some lurkers come in from the cold and make their, hopefully, first post. Sometimes that is all it takes to get another good member going. As for the question, I can understand those who feel long inactive lurkers should be deleted, but I don't agree. As a practical matter unless we ban them by IP -which has it's own consequences - any lurker will just reopen another account. Plus it really won't do much to affect reposting. Too many ways to get around the lurker status and all too often reposters have made posts here anyway. So no real advantage to deleting the lurkers. On the other side, we have a lot of lurkers who do one day decide to get active. Then they find they like the interaction and we have another active member. We want to encourage that any way we can, even if it means accepting a LOT of lurkers.
For the lurkers out there, I just want to say you are hurting yourself if you see something you REALLY like and you don't let the OP know it. People who upload do it partially because they want the feedback. If they don't get it they typically post less or, sometimes, stop posting for awhile. So even if you don't have anything to share yourself, at least thank people for the stuff you truly enjoy. Do that and you will see more of it, guaranteed!
I've replied to lots of posts, started a few threads, and have even posted a pic or two. (I try to post pix I haven't seen on here, which are few and far between!) I have some great pics of gfs that I'd love to post one day, but until the subject of my pix gives me permission to do so, I'll respect her wishes.
I didn't mean to start with the intention of having users post their private pics ( although it would be nice) rather just a response from the inactive users. Just a thanks or who knows maybe they have some more pics of that girl you're looking for... but are eh... to comfortable to make the effort to post them. Just wanted to raise a flag that you out there are welcome to participate with anything. Just say something.Quote:
Originally Posted by theoriemeister
Seem it work, these days there is lots of post from ex watchers. You done well pulicaus :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pulicaus
No! The only reason anyone should get banned is if they have been rude, disrespectful or violated the reposting rule. My humble opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by pulicaus
I lurk on sites to get a sense of how things work and how respectful people might be. Since I only post on Facial Forum, it makes me a lurker on other sites. Facial Forum is the only place that has the less positive people under control.
Great post, The Shape.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Shape
There is a heavy poster, now banned, that I have caught reposting. Lurkers are not always leachers. They are just avid masturbators that need both hands. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by dogbreath26
Piper
:D Princess you r really more than a sexy women!Quote:
Originally Posted by gloryholeprincess
Hello.
My name is azriel15.
I was a lurkaholic here for over four years.
Look at me now.
Thanks to Lurkers Anonymous (LA), I was able to overcome my lurk addiction.
Thanks to their 2 -step program, I beat my affliction.
Step 1: click on reply.
Step 2: type.
Remember to say the FF prayer:
I am powerless against great facials on gorgeous pornstars, amateurs, and also powerless against the allure of the gloryholeprincess, little lo peep, stunts, and the other fair maidens who are members here. Please give me the strength to click and reply, and to post good content, and to know the difference between good content and bad content. I also pledge to follow the rules, obey the word of the moderators and admin, and to send them some praise occasionally.
Wow. That prayer re-energizes me everytime! :D
Dont forget to say Amen!Quote:
Originally Posted by azriel15
Amen, brother, Amen! :D
Well... I used to post stuff (and it was hot stuff ;) when I had something to post a time ago. Now - I work much and Iīve got a family and bla bla bla - havenīt got the time to post. I would love to feed my facial interest and do a lot of posting, but I have to admit - right now, Iīm nothing but a lurker.
guys what encourages me is the sheer level of community spirit we have here at ff.net....
that said i understand the frustration of active poster at the lack of comments left, but hey its a community and communities are made up of all sorts.
we are quite relaxed about the running of ff.net we are not politicians nor are we policemen, we are community members and we only have the responsibillity to try to keep the place running as smoothly as possible.
lurkers, powerposters and the admin/mod team all have our parts to play.
everytime theres lurker/reg poster breakthrough it just reminds me that actually FF.net works and is a great place.
Fa
Apparently its not isolated to FF, there's a rule called the 1% rule about internet forums.
hxxp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture)
facialadmin joins in and shows us why the attitude here is so positive and fun. :) ;) You rock!
I will admit to being a lurker even on Facial Forum.
There are some threads that I like that I want to keep to myself so as not to give a false impression of my desires with strangers. Things that I only ask my man to do with me and that I wouldn't want to do with anyone else.
I also have a rule about never saying anything negative. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. It is better to share positive thoughts. I have broken the rule once or twice but I try not to. :rolleyes: It makes me a lurker because I will sometimes watch these thread progress without commenting. :)
Piper
I lurked for quite awhile before I started posting some stuff. It's kind of like a pool sometimes you need to ease into it.
Thank you for posting this very interesting link. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by steve6781
You're welcome, i wonder if the maths applies to the user base here.Quote:
Originally Posted by azriel15
I also understand that with my post count getting close to 10 in 2 years i'm one of the lurkers. But felt I had something to contribute to this thread :)
Totally agree with you Princess, is there something more turning off than a "what you watch is evil/ugly" comments? :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by gloryholeprincess
If you want only 1 thing, well, dont look to other! But dont try to disgust people from it!